Comments on: chevron + zig-zag + stripes {flooring-fresh, or not?} http://www.abcddesign.com/archives/2010/02/05/chevron-zig-zag-stripes-flooring-fresh-or-not/ Milestones in life set the tone. Nesting, Interior Decor, Recipes, Collecting, Art, Style, Living, The Good Life Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:15:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: trish http://www.abcddesign.com/archives/2010/02/05/chevron-zig-zag-stripes-flooring-fresh-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-6497 trish Mon, 12 Apr 2010 17:31:56 +0000 http://www.abcddesign.com/?p=10172#comment-6497 Maddie annoyed, I shouldn't think so. She had to have been inspired by something or someone. This design date back to BC; the egyptians, native americans and mayans used what we refer to as chevron in garments, textiles, architecture and artwork, even before it had a name. So not so sure where copycat began. the knock-off - that's a whole other story. I believe that originated in kindergarten with that game follow the leader. that's just part of being a trendsetter, i guess. but those like you know where they saw it first and can recognize quality in the details. I haven't seen them side by side; but guaranteed the price goes hand in hand with quality of the finishing touches. my dad always said "you get what you pay for." great post. ox t Maddie annoyed, I shouldn’t think so. She had to have been inspired by something or someone. This design date back to BC; the egyptians, native americans and mayans used what we refer to as chevron in garments, textiles, architecture and artwork, even before it had a name. So not so sure where copycat began.
the knock-off – that’s a whole other story. I believe that originated in kindergarten with that game follow the leader. that’s just part of being a trendsetter, i guess. but those like you know where they saw it first and can recognize quality in the details. I haven’t seen them side by side; but guaranteed the price goes hand in hand with quality of the finishing touches. my dad always said “you get what you pay for.”
great post. ox t

]]> By: Sara Baldwin http://www.abcddesign.com/archives/2010/02/05/chevron-zig-zag-stripes-flooring-fresh-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-5709 Sara Baldwin Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:15:23 +0000 http://www.abcddesign.com/?p=10172#comment-5709 Yes, intellectual property is a very misunderstood issue. I just had a Chinese company go to our website, copy all our new black and white patterns (http://www.newravenna.com/collections), and send them to me. They were very proud of their work. And to give them the benefit of the doubt, they want to work with us and perhaps I won't see New Ravenna designs in their booth at the next trade show, available to all my competition. But still, it freaks me out. We just have to continue to pull rabbits out of our hats. Complacency is deadly (and boring)...it's good to have to continue to be on our toes, to constantly innovate. There will always be customers who buy the real Hermes handbag. Those customers appreciate originality, and those are the clients that I want! PS. We also do zig-zag chevrons (see our patterns submitted by Studium to House Beautiful this month), but like Madeline, we've been doing versions of them for years... Yes, intellectual property is a very misunderstood issue. I just had a Chinese company go to our website, copy all our new black and white patterns (http://www.newravenna.com/collections), and send them to me. They were very proud of their work. And to give them the benefit of the doubt, they want to work with us and perhaps I won’t see New Ravenna designs in their booth at the next trade show, available to all my competition. But still, it freaks me out. We just have to continue to pull rabbits out of our hats. Complacency is deadly (and boring)…it’s good to have to continue to be on our toes, to constantly innovate. There will always be customers who buy the real Hermes handbag. Those customers appreciate originality, and those are the clients that I want!
PS. We also do zig-zag chevrons (see our patterns submitted by Studium to House Beautiful this month), but like Madeline, we’ve been doing versions of them for years…

]]> By: tracy hiner http://www.abcddesign.com/archives/2010/02/05/chevron-zig-zag-stripes-flooring-fresh-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-5613 tracy hiner Sun, 07 Feb 2010 16:53:00 +0000 http://www.abcddesign.com/?p=10172#comment-5613 Amy, To your point that it is annoying that stores like Ikea and West Elm knock off designers, I agree 100%. I know that they send out their teams to scour other high end stores and purchase items from those stores to take back and figure out how to knock it off, which is very disturbing when a store thinks it made a big sale and 3 months later finds their pieces for sale in a catalog. I also know from developing product for stores like that, they look through magazines and send you "ideas" meaning they want it exactly as shown, not a new take on the idea. Then they pass the idea on to their legal teams to see if it would be different enough to avoid copyright infringement. it's just kind of sad that that is how they handle those types of things. :-( Amy,

To your point that it is annoying that stores like Ikea and West Elm knock off designers, I agree 100%. I know that they send out their teams to scour other high end stores and purchase items from those stores to take back and figure out how to knock it off, which is very disturbing when a store thinks it made a big sale and 3 months later finds their pieces for sale in a catalog. I also know from developing product for stores like that, they look through magazines and send you “ideas” meaning they want it exactly as shown, not a new take on the idea. Then they pass the idea on to their legal teams to see if it would be different enough to avoid copyright infringement. it’s just kind of sad that that is how they handle those types of things. :-(

]]> By: tracy hiner http://www.abcddesign.com/archives/2010/02/05/chevron-zig-zag-stripes-flooring-fresh-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-5612 tracy hiner Sun, 07 Feb 2010 16:41:47 +0000 http://www.abcddesign.com/?p=10172#comment-5612 I agree with Tobi, I think there is room for everyone and every price point, even within the same house. I believe that if you can afford/justify paying for an original then do it, but I also feel that if you like a rug (or anything else for that matter) and it is a cheaper knock off then go with it, as long as you are getting something you will love it shouldn't matter if it is the expensive or cheaper version. Sometimes I do find the chain store versions I like better than whatever they are knocking off! My last point is that I prefer to spend my money supporting companies and designers I truly appreciate over a chain store any day. I agree with Tobi, I think there is room for everyone and every price point, even within the same house. I believe that if you can afford/justify paying for an original then do it, but I also feel that if you like a rug (or anything else for that matter) and it is a cheaper knock off then go with it, as long as you are getting something you will love it shouldn’t matter if it is the expensive or cheaper version. Sometimes I do find the chain store versions I like better than whatever they are knocking off! My last point is that I prefer to spend my money supporting companies and designers I truly appreciate over a chain store any day.

]]> By: Tobi Fairley http://www.abcddesign.com/archives/2010/02/05/chevron-zig-zag-stripes-flooring-fresh-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-5599 Tobi Fairley Sun, 07 Feb 2010 04:18:55 +0000 http://www.abcddesign.com/?p=10172#comment-5599 Amy, I wouldn't count out these rugs yet. I think they are phenominal and something that I would never grow tired of. They are classics in my opinion. Of course I prefer the originals by Madeline Weinrib, she is one of my all time faves. But I could see myself using the attractive knock-offs in less important spaces like my daughter's room or my guest room. I am sure Madeline is annoyed just a bit, but I think she has plenty of die-hard fans like me that will still buy her originals now matter what else is out there. I mean, I still buy real chanel bags even though there are knock offs all around. I really do think that imitation is the best form of flattery and I don't really think that the people who will buy the west elm versions are Madeline's ideal client anyway. I think a classic is a classic is a classic, and I think there is room enought for both the high and low end in the market. So there's my 2 cents worth. :-) I love this post. Keep up the great work! xoxo Tobi Amy,
I wouldn’t count out these rugs yet. I think they are phenominal and something that I would never grow tired of. They are classics in my opinion. Of course I prefer the originals by Madeline Weinrib, she is one of my all time faves. But I could see myself using the attractive knock-offs in less important spaces like my daughter’s room or my guest room. I am sure Madeline is annoyed just a bit, but I think she has plenty of die-hard fans like me that will still buy her originals now matter what else is out there. I mean, I still buy real chanel bags even though there are knock offs all around. I really do think that imitation is the best form of flattery and I don’t really think that the people who will buy the west elm versions are Madeline’s ideal client anyway. I think a classic is a classic is a classic, and I think there is room enought for both the high and low end in the market. So there’s my 2 cents worth. :-) I love this post. Keep up the great work! xoxo Tobi

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